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Post by Deleted on Sept 30, 2015 20:39:53 GMT -5
Now that this place is a teeny bit alive, I guess it's time to start some plots!
Nitrine: a happy-go-lucky, talkative, somewhat irresponsible young man who is slowly learning what it means to be an effective rancher. [bio here]
Friends – Nitrine is pretty easy to get along with. He is spazzy but almost always happy. He can fit a lot of words into a single sentence, but by no means is he a poor listener. He's a free-spirit who just wants to enjoy life. That being said, he'd love some other people to share the fun with.
Lovers – Nitrine has always been a bit shy about falling in love because of his gender and sexuality, but he'd make a very devoted and doting partner to anyone he dates. Highly monogamous. His partner's happiness is incredibly important to him.
Enemies – You'd have to do some pretty specific things to him to make him dislike you. If you try to tell him what to do in a domineering way, he'll push back, because he hates that. He also despises people who argue with him about his gender, who tell him how feminine he looks, who abuse Pokémon, or who take advantage of others for a shallow gain. Beware if you raise Dark- or Ghost-types; Nitrine is not a fan. If provoked enough, he may be inclined to fight you by himself rather than with Pokemon. It's also worth noting that he jumps to conclusions and makes assumptions.
Oxana the Snubbull: Affectionate with those she's come to know and like. A little rough around the edges with strangers, but nonetheless knows how to be civil. Nonjudgmental, a good listener, good shoulder to cry on. If you get her to like you and befriend you, you've got a friend for life. Prides herself on her strength.
Kellen the Clefairy: Optimistic Clefairy who is always friendly and mischievous with jealous tendencies. Unpredictable and somewhat reckless behavior, he is preoccupied with the idea that being a guard Pokemon will allow him to stay up at night, if he's able to get strong enough.
DJ the Doduo: Disrespectful and grumpy, but forgiving in nature. Knows what he wants and does just that, even if others don't really want him to (Nitrine included). Can be bribed with snacks, but also reserves the right to ignore said bribes. Likes a good quarrel and won't turn down an energetic game, usually tag. Doesn't like to beat around the bush in conversation.
Cole the Zorua: Headstrong and sometimes too honest for his own good. Very playful, mischievous like Kellen, and loves to show off his Illusion ability. Young, immature, likes having what he wants and will go against the rules to get it. Unfortunately quite vindictive, tit-for-tat even in trivial matters. Independent and can be a bad influence on other youngsters.
Ginger the Sentret: Currently the youngest of the group, presh baby. A little quirky in personality, she likes to go out exploring as well. Gullible and uninhibited; speaks too much and prone to finding loopholes in rules given to her. Has a giving heart, but occasionally exhibits absentminded tendencies.
Angel/Mai: A system of identities living in a male Meowstic. [bio here]
Angel - Quiet, non-confrontational, somewhat socially inept due to his abnormal upbringing, but he's willing to learn from other Pokemon the proper way to treat others. Somewhat embarrassed when others find him weird. A gentle teacher is nice but a rough one would be equally effective. Is willing to be a doormat for tougher, meaner Pokemon as much as he's willing to push around 'mons he perceives as weaker. Loves Kurt, respects humans in general but will avoid women.
Mai - Calm and typically unemotional, which others may find unsettling. Is less likely to be a doormat for bigger Pokemon and more likely to fight back against them and other perceived threats. Equally socially inept as Angel, but also open to learn from other Pokemon. More willing to go exploring on her own than Angel, when she surfaces. Tends to do unto others as they do unto her. Appreciates Kurt and his affection; has a healthy, if dismissive, respect for humans, but suspicious of women; will bristle at brunettes and attack if cornered.
I'll update this post with more characters as I add them. Feel free to make plots with whoever is already here in the meantime, 8D
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Post by Deleted on Oct 5, 2015 20:32:43 GMT -5
*tries to figure out a list of her charries to throw at @aeranautics*
August
I have no idea how Nitrine will take to August. Like almost everything, August will probably be fairly indifferent to the rancher, at least at first, and his Pokemon aren't exactly Nitrine's favorite types. August won't be hanging around the island too often, methinks, but it would definitely be interesting to see if these two could develop some sort of friendship after a while. The pair may even been "frenemies" at first, not quite friendly acquaintances, but eventually grow to tolerate each other until one day they decide that just maybe they would call the other a friend.
Morgan
I think these two would get along fairly well. Morgan will probably be quieter (not quite shyer) than Nitrine, but I would like to believe that she would enjoy his gentle company, and perhaps he hers. They're both fairly new at what they're doing and can share their experiences with one another over tea and biscuits. xD
Pokemon
For August, I currently have Gamble the Ninjask, Harlequin the Mismagius, and Keno the Skorupi. Gamble probably wouldn't bother with Nitrine and company unless they bothered him or August. Harlequin would be the type to try to play pranks and may even find delight in Nitrine's distaste of her kind. Keno would want try to be friends with everyone because he doesn't know better.
Morgan's Vivi the Gothita may get along okay with Nitrine's Pokemon, but could also find a sort of rival in both Oxana and Kellen. They're all pretty young, so Vivi's and Oxana's shared immaturity may be a bit much for the pair. Horos the Meditite may end up looking up to Oxana for her headstrong trait, and due to the fact that she's the strongest of the lot level-wise.
For other Pokemon, I have Ace the Greninja under Kris's care, if Nitrine and company ever go her way. I'm also planning on bringing back Cupcake the Vivillon for Kurt and Verdi the Vileplume for Bryar, if the two will have them back again, so possibilities for them are always there too (especially for Angel!).
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Post by Deleted on Oct 6, 2015 17:46:36 GMT -5
@ninja
So I definitely am excited for our thread with Morgan and Nitrine. If she doesn't mind how chirpy and talkative Nitrine can get, I have the feeling they might become pretty good friends. I think it would be cool if one visited the other's house for supper or a visit one day. As for their Pokemon, perhaps Oxana could get in pride fights with Vivi and maybe learn a thing or two about maturity. Beyond that, I think she and Kellen will get along fairly decently with Vivi and Horos.
Speaking of traveling to the northern part of the island, one day Nitrine should invest in a Pokemon he can ride on. Someday.
For August, if he ever gets the chance to wander over to Nitrine's neck of the woods, Nitrine definitely wouldn't like it too much if August just let Harlequin pull pranks or spook Nitrine or something. I mean, Nitrine is a friendly guy, and he likes people in general; August doesn't have much to worry about as long as he's not being rude. As far as Nitrine's attitudes towards Dark and Ghost-types is concerned, it's more like, he'll feel more comfortable knowing they won't actually hurt him.
Ooh, it would be interesting to see what would happen if Angel and co met up with Cupcake again. Maybe they could have some proper interaction this time.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 17, 2015 20:10:46 GMT -5
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So once upon a time, I brought up the idea to Kurt of Mai getting possessive over an egg laid on Kurt's ranch. I see Kristen is getting ready to buy an egg. What if Mai happens to have developed a curiosity/a protectiveness over an egg and happens to be hanging out/coming in to the shop to check on this one egg in particular while Kris is there? Mai meeting Kris for the first time and Kurt having to deal with his Meowstic flipping out… would either of you feel up to that?
If not, that's cool too; I can think of an idea for a separate thread.
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Post by Kurt Emerson on Nov 19, 2015 9:29:49 GMT -5
I'm sorry, but I'd rather have the shop thread be mainly for the quick transaction posts so as not to clutter it up. That, and Kristen and I had already planned on which egg she wanted to buy (as long as no one else beat her to it in the shop thread), and I thought we would keep Mai's egg on the ranch? Or did I make up that detail myself?
I wasn't sure if you wanted to have Mai develop the curiosity over the Sentret that is going to stay on the ranch? Or we can do a rarer egg that will take longer to hatch (all the eggs in the shop at the moment are a couple of weeks past their hatch date) to play-out/develop this little plot, if you'd like. Maybe we can do a full-fledged thread with Kristen just visiting Riverrock Acres and the humans visit the eggs that the ranch has at the moment, and Mai shows her protective side then?
Also, semi-random question - wouldn't Mai already know Kristen from when they were on the old Gaia Ranch? I'm not sure if Kristen would know of Mai just yet, but I was curious about the former.
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Post by Kris Parker on Nov 21, 2015 21:17:44 GMT -5
I will defer to Kurt's decision, since it's his shop thread, but I am all for playing out a thread where Kristen visits Kurt's ranch and Angel/Mai/Fell aren't too happy with the brunette woman hanging around.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 22, 2015 1:32:52 GMT -5
Ah, yeah, I get it. I just kind of remembered that was a plot idea I'd been interested in trying, so I threw it out there, but I understand. I think you made up that detail about Mai's egg being on the ranch, though it would definitely make sense. Honestly, it could go either way—she'd have to learn sometime that some eggs have got to go.
She could be curious about the Sentret. She might not be as protective of him as she would an egg, but if Kristen or another lady rancher came up, Mai would definitely stand up against her. Having her own thread would actually be a better idea, and it doesn't even need to involve eggs (though it most definitely could). In fact, she might not even need to develop an attachment to one egg and just try to defend any/all eggs from Kristen.
Mai might know of Kristen; I'm sure she was present for a lot of the transition from being under their ex-trainer to being under Kurt and the old Gaia Ranch as a whole. idk I think that statement was supposed to be poetic but failed. xD;;;
Anyway, yeah, just let me know of whatever you guys wanna do.
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Post by Kurt Emerson on Dec 30, 2015 11:29:40 GMT -5
We'll try to get a thread going once both of our works die down a bit from the holiday rushes. Maybe Kristen and a Pokemon or two can just come over for dinner or something. As for your words regarding Mai knowing of Kristen, remember that Kristen was there for all of the transition from ex-trainer to Kurt, considering it happened on Kristen's original ranch. In fact, it would have been Kristen's decision to place Angel and company under Kurt's care in the first place, a fact that Kurt may use in an attempt to help Angel and company get used to/at least tolerate the brunette. xD "Ya know, if it wasn't for Kristen, we never would have met..."(Or, when you said " she was present for a lot of the transition," did you mean Mai? I read it at first as she = Kristen, but now that I'm thinking on it, you could have meant Mai... Although I presume that Mai would always know what's going on around Angel anyway, even if she's not in control of the body, yes?)
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Post by Deleted on Jan 2, 2016 16:15:26 GMT -5
Haha, that sounds like fun. I hope you guys were able to survive the holiday rush!
Oh yeah, whoops. I was referring to Mai there. She wouldn't always know what was going on if she wasn't in control (though if she and Angel happened to meet in the inner-world, he'd probably tell her). How memory works in DID is really complicated—the condition itself is, let's be honest—but basically since Angel's capture by the police was really terrifying and involved lots of new people and especially women, I'm sure Mai would have been in control much of the time to keep Angel from potential abuse. In other words, Angel more than likely only remembers bits and pieces of what happened with the police from whenever Mai wasn't triggered to come out; everything else, he either has to look for clues in his real-world surroundings or try to hear from it from Mai.
Does that make sense? I feel like I went on a tangent there.
Anyway, I feel like once they were away from Kristen, Mai would have fallen back a bit to let Angel function in the new surroundings with Kurt and all while still kind of being in the background.
Heheh, this is going to be so fun, trying to get my poor Meowstic used to such a major part of Gaia Island life.
On that note, we haven't really considered Fall. I'm actually not 100% sure what xir trigger would be, tbh, though I'm thinking xe might emerge if one of the humans were to show anger, specifically at Angel/Mai. That being said, I'm sure that xe might also try to come out if, say, Mai is wrecking the house in her exaggerated attempts to defend herself from Kristen. The dynamics between Kurt, Kris, and the rapid-switching of the alters (or, as it might seem from the outside, the sudden and drastic change in behavior) is also something that might be fun to explore.
Once you both are less busy, I would love love love a thread where Kris and Kurt try to rehabilitate Angel and co. 83
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Post by Kris Parker on Jan 5, 2016 8:18:17 GMT -5
With all this information coming to light, I do have some concerns/comments about this potential plot. Nothing bad, but I'm not sure if this would logically play out the way we've been talking about lately.
So, since Mai was there for much of the time that Angel and co. were being transitioned from ex-trainer to police to Gaia Ranch, Mai would definitely know Kristen. Angel would as well, I imagine, considering that Kurt and his Pokemon lived with Kris and her team at the old Gaia Ranch for a while (judging by Kris's and Kurt's ages, it's probably been about two years since the old site), and it's not as if hearing about Kristen from Kurt is a stretch for the Meowstic.
With that said, while Kristen may not fully understand/know about Angel's headmates (would Kurt have informed her of that back on the old Gaia Ranch if/when he realized it?), she does know how delicate his situation is and would do her best not to trigger him. Of course, accidents happen, but I'm not sure what Kristen would do that would warrant Mai to go in defense mode? Her most likely course of action would be to smile gently, maybe wave to the Meowstic, but Kris would understand not to make sudden, quick movements or to get too close, unless Angel allowed her to.
Also, I was thinking of Kristen bringing around Ollie, the Phanpy she had gotten from Kurt, but Trek or someone else would probably also accompany her. If/when Mai attacks, Kristen's Pokemon will be there to protect her, but the level gap is large enough to probably cause Mai to faint in one hit. I'm curious as well as to what Kurt's other Pokemon, if any are around, may do if they see a teammate attacking their trainer's friend, especially since (I assume) Kurt is opposed to the Meowstic's actions.
I would love to have Kris help Angel and co. get over their fear of women (is it all women, or just/mainly brunette women, out of curiosity?), but the more we discuss this, the more I'm thinking that Kristen may not be the best choice for Kurt's Meowstic to flip out so much. They should have some familiarity with Kristen, and Kristen knows enough of the Meowstic's situation to do her best not to disturb the Pokemon. Thoughts?
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Post by Deleted on Jan 7, 2016 3:02:54 GMT -5
Your concerns are valid and actually really eye-opening. It seems I have forgotten or not considered some very obvious points. Derp. I was just so eager to have someone's shit get wrecked, ehehe.
Perhaps, then, Kurt (and Kris) needs to take a more deliberate approach to rehabilitating Angel/co and get them used to the idea that not all ladies are bad. Of course, if Kurt is aware of Angel's alters (which he is; Kurt and I have established that Apple told him in the past), then maybe the first step in doing that would be to actually get in contact with the other alters--with Mai, at least. This may become a little easier once the system learns how to harness telepathy, so Kurt and his Pokemon can dialogue a bit easier.
To answer your question: Angel is wary/afraid of women in general, though he's more inclined to leave the presence of one and only scratch if necessary/self defense, if Mai being triggered wasn't a thing that happens. Mai distrusts women in general but will be more inclined to attack a fair-skinned brunette than a woman who didn't fit that description. More specifically, if a blond girl or darker-skinned girl came into Kurt's house while Angel was around, Mai would surface, keep her distance, and be glarey eyes as long as the girl respected the distance. If someone like Kris came in (as she resembles the ex-trainer), Mai would surface and bristle and hiss; if Kris didn't respect the distance, Mai would probably use a long-range attack like Thunder Wave. I imagine any Pokemon stepping up to defend Kris wouldn't really help the situation, either.
So, a better way to approach the plot would be, just as an example, to have Kris and Kurt talk about rehabilitating Angel and co, then take steps to try and do so in a way that doesn't harm either themselves or the Pokemon they're working with.
In the meantime, Mai could have an aggressive outburst if Kris shows up unexpectedly (for Mai, anyway, as Kurt might have invited her over or whatever), get taken down, and then that might be what spurs Kurt and Kris to have their talk. For a less intense incident, Angel could hear Kris at the door and noticeably abscond from the house, and that could do the trick.
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Post by Kurt Emerson on Jan 20, 2016 8:41:14 GMT -5
Just adding my two cents in:
-- I would like to imagine that Kurt, after finding out from Apple about Angel's headmates, would have informed Kris and the other ranchers of the old Gaia Ranch about it. With how delicate Angel's situation is, Kurt would have been open with any and all information so everyone would be aware of what may trigger Angel and company.
-- On that note, due to both Kurt and Kris knowing Angel as they do, I can't imagine Kurt not warning Angel about company, nor do I believe that Kris would show up unexpectedly. Both humans are pretty thoughtful like that when it comes to their more tender Pokemon.
-- I think that, Aera, you should imagine/figure out how Angel and co would logically feel about Kris after knowing her for about two years (maybe women in general? idk how much progress they would have made with rehabilitating Angel on the old Gaia Ranch). They all lived together on the one ranch for, probably, about a year and a half before moving to the island, if we agree on that timeline. If we consider everything we know about these characters, Kris probably won't do much to trigger anything more than a glare and maybe a hiss from Mai.
-- I agree that, perhaps, Kris isn't the best choice for a major freak out. I don't mind if Angel just disappears from the house, making Kurt a bit disappointed, but they wouldn't force Angel and co to come and greet Kris. It could definitely trigger a conversation between the humans if we want to play it out that way.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 23, 2016 19:00:50 GMT -5
From what it sounds like, the ranchers—Kurt and Kris in particular—wouldn't do anything to purposely trigger Angel or anything. They wouldn't force him into stuff. That is reasonable. But, on the old Gaia Ranch, how much effort did they actively put into rehabilitating Angel/co?
I think one thing that makes things difficult is that we don't really know about Angel’s relationships with any other Pokémon from the old Gaia Ranch. Did the learn to get along well with some of them? How many? Who in particular? I'm certain they all would notice him/Mai skulking off if one of the lady ranchers came by (indeed, perhaps he didn't really visit areas where lady ranchers might frequent so as to avoid them). I'm also sure that, if Angel/Mai ever expressed that they haven't had very good experiences with women, the Pokémon would reassure them that Kris/Avalyn/etc are not people to worry about. And, I know that he's gotten to know at least some of Kurt’s Pokémon, though whether they know details of his past is still up in the air, especially because you don't really hand out pamphlets on your mother’s murder or your subsequent years of abuse to others.
My thoughts are this: Angel might still be skittish around women and probably hasn't gotten to personally know Kris well enough to tolerate her company. Perhaps he does, at least, believe that she isn't a bad lady. The issue is that he can't help Mai’s emergence when they spot women around. After your guys’ earlier posts, it would be more logical for them to take an escape route to avoid Kris if she ever came over, I realize. Same for other current lady ranchers, assuming leaving the area is possible.
But I also think that, because Mai is the one who deals with Angel’s most traumatic memories, she would still have a strong reactivity when it comes to someone like Kris despite knowing her for about two years. It would make sense that, given the shit she's seen and been through at the hands of their ex-trainer, she wouldn't care what Kris’s Pokémon have said about their caretaker or care to get to know Kris/any other ladies herself.
(Would she listen if Angel tried to talk sense into her? That's the question of the day, but to be honest, I'm sure she'd make Angel doubt himself on that.)
If no(t enough) active effort was put into trying to get Angel/co to chill and not be afraid of women, it would make sense that Mai in particular would still have problems.
Again, how much Kris and Kurt really tried to rehabilitate them would be another thing to consider. But, you both are right: since the two ranchers are doing their best to keep Angel/co from feeling threatened, and because they're always leaving escape routes open, Mai probably wouldn't resort to outright violence, not right away.
As an aside, this topic is one I find very enlightening. You've made me realize that my beloved Meowstic isn't as developed as I thought; there are many questions that ought to he answered.
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Post by Kurt Emerson on Feb 11, 2016 9:52:30 GMT -5
Glad you find this all very enlightening -- I love talking development with others! xD
I would like to think that Kris and Kurt would have tried to rehabilitate them as much as they could with a ranch full of other Pokemon, half of which had some other not-so-great pasts as well. Kris and her sister, at the very least, being the bosses and all, were probably very interested in all the Pokemon's developments, and with how close Kurt was to the sisters, I imagine he shared his findings with them and they probably tried to slowly get Angel used to seeing the women around, even if it was just for a smile and wave as they passed by.
On that note, the old Gaia Ranch was much smaller than the island and more than half of the caretakers were women. I suppose it would depend on how often you would imagine that Angel and co were around said other caretakers? Or did Angel and co hide out in Kurt's barn the majority of the time? Like mentioned, these are difficult questions to answer considering it's all just speculation.
It definitely makes sense that Mai, at least, would still have problems, and I also think it's right that she probably wouldn't resort to violence right away with Kristen. If, say, Ava were to visit the ranch, that may be a different story -- she's not brunette but she was also on the old Gaia Ranch for a while too. Morgan, on the other hand, would probably need to stay away. In my opinion, judging by what I know of your character, I think Mai would just disappear when it came to Kristen, maybe hiss at Ava, and probably wouldn't be happy at all to see Morgan. xD
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Post by Deleted on May 12, 2016 18:36:38 GMT -5
So, I know the site has become largely inactive at this point, but I'm just going to say this:
I think that although Angel/co were around the women caretakers, they probably just learned to avoid them. It's also equally likely that Angel himself did spend large amounts of time in the barn or near wherever Kurt may have been (although if that included that one house that all 12 of those people lived in, he probably stopped doing that when he realized how many women were there, or only stopped by infrequently if he heard/smelled Kurt around). He probably wasn't all too enthusiastic to make friends, but did try to test the waters after living there for some time, even though his version of "making friends" isn't exactly friendly. Mai was probably more adventurous and did more talking to others, but as mentioned earlier, you're right in that she'd more logically just avoid women.
That being said, I also want to pretend that, although Kurt and the others may have attempted to rehabilitate Angel actively, not a lot of progress may have been made simply due to the amount of Pokemon there was to look after. Seeing as how all of this is just speculation, however, it's difficult to be sure.
I think the bottom line is nobody's shit is going to get wrecked by Mai flying off the handle. xux; Darn. But, that's not the only plot we can make for the Meowstic, certainly, though if there are some things I'd want to see, it would include:
-- Kurt getting to know Mai after she learns telepathy. (Due to how the brain functions in someone with DID, it's also possible that Angel and Fall may or may not get this ability, as well, to varying degrees.) He may be interested in talking to some other ranchers about who she is.
-- Kurt learning how to talk to each of the alters, or at least know which one he's talking to.
-- the Meowstic interacting with/befriending, even in some weird way, other Pokemon. Of course, this can happen with any mun, not just with Kurt. It would be interesting to see how some Pokemon react to the different alters.
-- Maybe? Kurt talking to Angel/co about eggs and wondering if that's ever something the Meowstic would want to do in the future. I can see them going around asking other Pokemon about eggs and how it feels to have them.
-- Kurt and Kris possibly trying to change Angel/Mai's opinion about women in general, to realize that not all women are evil and out to get them, which may improve their quality of life.
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